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If this isn't on the front page in the near future, there's something wrong with this site. Well done, sir. I'm going to enjoy life on planet Paper.

haitam responds:

Thanks and have fun !

That was...

The single most horrific thing I have ever seen, heard or experienced in my 30 years of life on this Earth.

I am thoroughly disgusted, disturbed and I feel as though a childhood memory of mine has been ripped out of the recesses of my memory, torn to shreds, shat upon, disemboweled and left for dead.

You should go to Hollywood and help them fix whatever started them down the path of making movies like "How Do You Know" and "Tron: Legacy".

FatKidWitAJetPak responds:

Tron was AMAAZZZZZIIINNGGG!!!

Two Skies Up

I nearly had an embolism watching this, but it was worth every excruciating second.

Short-Factor responds:

You are worthy.

Um...

I'm all for disgracing the ravenous masses who trampled a guy over a Hello Kitty doll, but... that was it? Some stock news footage, a poorly-acted geezer, a bathroom and some sprained ankles?

I want my 5 minutes back.

The only reason this is on the front page is because of its timely release.

Sh0T-D0wN responds:

'K.

Don't be mad I didn't 10 anything...

Finally after I don't know how long, this thing finally debutes on NG.

I don't want to be all negative, so I will say that, for the most part, the animation was on par with the better NG submissions of the past. I think if we all knew we would have that much more time we could have made resounding improvements - I know I could have.

The music, for what it is, fits the AFD idiom, but perhaps not the animation. There are points where it clicks with the animation, but those instances are rare and sublimate the music to background noise.

The sound effects are far more rare than I was expecting. Many parts either had no sounds at all, or very few (and they were usually drowned out by the music). I took the time to mix together accompanying sound effects (even creating a few I didn't have) for my series, and I was sad to see that time go to waste.

Graphically is probably where this stands out. The motions are slick, the art is at least decent in all cases, the gore and effects are complimentary, and overall it isn't overdone. Some pieces could have used more polish - which could have been done had they realized the release would come so late.

I suppose it suffered from the downsizing required to fit the flash on NG, but the interactivity was lacking. The main menu looks nice, but is pretty boring without the accompanying music. There's no scene selections, and no nav bar while you're watching.

Upon perusing the reviews, one comment stands out in my mind - the humor. My particular part had no real punchline (except that somehow Snake is breathing fine standing on an atmosphere-less asteroid, falling toward Jupiter) and no planned comic moment. Prime's face floating by at the end used to be funnier before I added AFD5 to the asteroid - it stole the show. Dr Fuji ftw with the bombed eggs, the castle crashers clip is all mabout comic timing, and Rad24's tankman scene is well-placed for a laugh, but few others are intentionally funny. However, The entire concept of AFD is funny, and the irony is prevalent, so there's an echo of humor even without it being directed at you.

As far as style goes, it's an unfair question. Everyone here is imitating someone else's style, so the best you're going to get is a similar style to the original, but not an original style (you might have to read that a few times before it makes sense). I will say that the way in which most of these characters are executed each has its own styling, so that's where the 8 for style comes from.

Overall I'm happy I got an IM out of the blue in the middle of July - or August, whatever - asking if I'd make a part for some AFD series I'd never heard of, seen or given a damn about, really... I got to kill Optimus Prime finally (he is SO overused on NG), and I only killed Snake because it wouldn't have made sense not to - he was airless and falling toward a gas giant... I don't think there's anyone he can CODEC call to get out of that.

Anyway, peace people. I have a lv 56 paladin to level...

Radioactive24 responds:

You and your WoW addiction...I hope you come back for AFD6 :D

- Radioactive24

OK, now you have to finish VP...

There's a fair amount of good talent in this collab, but some of it seems rushed (I know that sounds insane with a 7 month production schedule). There were a lot of clips that didn't seem to make sense with the lyrics, or that seemed to have been tossed in near the end to get it released. There also seemed to be no continuity in the flow of the video because some animators followed the fast pace of the song -- using intense, fast moving imagery -- while others took a more lethargic approach -- a sphynx, and a man sharing lyrics (with poor lip movement animation, no less) for what seemed like an eternity.

Artistically, it's an interesting clash of styles. I know that's really not intentional with a collab like this because when you have all those different contributors you get all kinds of styles, but most of them convey the intended message fairly well.

The sound seems to have a few hiccups in it. I don't think it was lag, but there were a few instances where the sound cuts out or is replaced with white noise for a second -- something I know isn't in the original recording of BYOB. It may be a bum sound file or something minor like that.

My only real problem is all the artists seem to have taken one side of the road with the song's meanings. Nobody explored the duality in the lyrics, that the song could be about either side of a war. When I was looking to join this collab, that was the big issue I had against joining -- and I'm glad I didn't because my clip would never have fit in.

All in all it's fairly well made. I wish there was an authors section to look at rather than a fast credit roll, but I'm curious like that.

As a final note: HELP -Hellraiser- FINISH THE VIOLENT PORNOGRAPHY COLLAB! I wanna see, I wanna see!

CatTehBus responds:

dude! very nice comment I really enjoyed reading it! and it is semi-rushed cause we wanted to get it out there before my hard drive got formatted (again..) and an Authors page is in the works and the .swf will be updated soon

Seeing as how I put it together...

I'll review the other submissions.

Foolish Mortal:
This contains some of the best art design I've seen in flash anywhere. There isn't really much of a story except that it would seem the entire idea was the joke at the end. I really liked it and wanted to see it in the collab ever since I saw the demo.

The character animation when he goes to pull the black screen in is a little jerky, and the foreground contains a lot of movement that - in retrospect - probably only serves to cause lag.

Cybex:
About as simple as stick animation gets, but charming and well timed with the musical accompaniment.

Sometimes things seem to move too fast for you to catch what just happened.

Redking57:
The concept of the flash is funny and poetic all at once. The direction is pretty good, and it moves with the music.

However there are some technical issues with the character animation and some of the camera use. The stairs look attrocious when you zoom in because the line width doesn't remain constant, but rather increases in width as the camera zooms in - thus making all the lines really thick. When using a transparency on a character it's difficult to do a multi-sectioned body without the overlapping sections being obvious. The walking animation is also very stiff - I think you need to find a good walk animation tutorial.

indianwrestler:
I do believe that you were fairly rushed in making your submission, so iI won't be terribly harsh.

The idea behind the flash is funny and relevant - it does seem like NG is taking over the world, and there will soon be droves of people bowing to Tom Fulp ...

Most of my issues have to do with how you keep track of things on your timeline (specifically how you insert sounds). Your character animation is sub-par (again, rushed) and the design of some background elements makes it difficult to discern what they are. Also, there were several sound effects that, when I listened to them, seemed relevant, but were barely audible in the final version.

BleeBlap:
Well, i'm not going to pick apart the AS, since I'm no authority. It's definitly Pong, and it works well enough. It was a pain trying to get it to fit into the collab since it wasn't designed to be part of a collab (it was made to stand alone).

Overall I'm happy this is finally done with. This is literally the first project we concieved (there have been many since).

By the way, as far as mine goes, it's old. About 8 or 10 months old. If anyone's wondering 1) No it's not rotoscoped, 2) Yes it's all tweening (characters) and scripted camera work. 3) That IS Seifer Almasy (FFVIII) laying the smackdown (or trying to) on a character of my design. I based some of the movement off of Soul Calibur 2 (specifically the stances, and some of the pressing attacks), and was originally running it at 28fps. At 24fps, it's a bit slow.

NewbieAnimations responds:

i thought foolish mortal's submission was great too. like you said though, the animation where the character pulls the black screen in looks a bit weird, but it's just a minor flaw.

i liked the simple graphics of cybex's animation. i didn't think it was hard to follow. i think the madness series are more confusing.

this is a good example of how someone doesn't need to be experienced with flash to make good movies. the animation wasn't great, but i kinda liked what little story there was.

yeah, indian wrestler's submission was rushed, but it wasn't all that bad. animation wise, it was lackluster, but, like you said, the NG taking over the world theme was interesting. i liked the music too.

like some users have noticed, there is a tiny flaw with pong. if you choose not to play the game, the screen for pong stays there and it gets in the way when you watch the collab submissions. anyways, it was cool to be able to play something while waiting for the collab to load. thanks, bleeblap.

although i thought the pace of the fight was too slow (the characters moved slowly), it was great overall. it was mostly eye candy like foolish mortal's submission, but it was great eye candy. besides, i wouldn't expect anything less from a collab like this.

twilight_venom

If that's just the intro it's FAR too big...

If you consider NG's 5 meg limit and the poor people on dial-up (there's a few of them left), a 1300kb intro is less than a stellar way to introduce people to your product. If you ever plan on making fully animated flash cartoons - or even games - you don't want to spend that mych bandwidth on the intro.

Other than that it's pretty cool, but it was kinda small. You might want to put more focus on the brand name and motto rather than the logo itself - which is a rather simplistic softened bar plus some detailing. The whole thing could be done without the use of adobe (by layering gradients in flash).

I only have one question. What took so long to come up with a 10 second guitar riff?

LudBofton responds:

Yes I forgot to change the audio bit rate back to MP3 (While I was testing the movie I had it on 48khz), but I've already fixed that (notice the 728kb filesize now).
Without photoshop this flash would not have been possible.

The 'guitar riff' is actually 3 layers of guitar tracks, so that's why it took 10 minutes. I mixed them all using Acid Pro.

Also I've already created fully animated flash cartoons, check 'em out. I'm in the process of making a comedy series, hopefully the first episode will be finished in the next few weeks!

Thanks for the constructive review.

I'd have to guess that you...

hate RPGs.

I'm not going to hold that against you. However I will hold the fact that this is a steaming pile of crap against you. Invisible mages? Were you so far at the end of your rope that you asked your pets for ideas?

Once you had the idea, did you bother with these questions:

Why would invisible mages have to get close?

Couldn't he just vaporize the two sword wielding narrow-minded do-gooders from afar?

Apart from that the title seems to have absolutely nothing to do with the actual movie. We never find out what the supposed fight for freedom is based on - nor what they're fighting against.

I could delve deeper, but I'm not going to bother. I hope this gets deleted.

Shinodan360 responds:

i do hate rpgs!!!
and i hate you too, why did u have to get all technical? "he could have just vaporised him from far" your a fucking geek pal

I hate when that happens...

Santa Clause caving in because of Fatkins and all that... Santa's fat and immortal. It doesn't get any better, dammit!

Anyway, this is not bad for someone who hasn't been creating flash for long. Some of the animation was pretty simplistic, but it got the point across. It wasn't as good as the other one (that I saw a while back), but that was done by someone with a lot more experience.

You did kinda lack backgrounds, but that's normal for a newbie. Lining backgrounds up with characters is painfully tedious and usually looks terrible the first few times you try it.

You should (based on viewing your earlier work) improve with time. You might consider either creating a script or getting a friend to bounce ideas with. Having something solid to work toward (as opposed to just kinda making something as needed) forces you to come up with ways to accomplish the things you're brainstorming. Then it's a matter of seeking out tutorials and then going through the tedious process of implimenting what you've learned.

One final bit of advice - get into some art classes and get a scanner to import your drawings/images for tracing (or get a tablet if you can afford it). You can only do the simplistic characters for so long before people figure it out and start giving you low scores because of it.

psicicle responds:

Thanks for the nice, long, helpful review. You really are a "tough" reviewer huh, out of 12 pages of reviews written only 4 got 10s? And one, you gave out of sympathy? Well anyway, please review my newest flash!

Somewhere between the incandescent dreams cascading through my subconscious, and the derisive reality signifying eternal discontent, I ride a wavelength above conceptualization, but below the apex of understanding, awaiting an epiphany.

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